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Understanding Trust and Safety policies
View Listings | Report 28-04-05 17:11 IST
Hi All,

At eBay our constant endeavor is to create a safer place for our users to transact and interact with each other. In this workshop we will discuss what are we doing and our plans to make the site a better and safer place for our users. We will love to get you feedback and suggestions on the help pages content and the responses you are receiving from Customer Helpdesk.

Details
Date: Friday 27th May
Time: 3.00 to 4.00 PM (IST)


See you on 27th!

Sapana
Community Development Team
31 replies Date posted Reply #
) View Listings | Report 19-06-06 17:38 IST 31 of 31
I have a response. My account is limited. I am verified have faxed several times all my contact information and police verification on all items in my auctions and still I am not allowed to re-list.......I have asked for a phone call from Trust and Safety and nothing....just that the limits will remain on my account.

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 16:01 IST 30 of 31
Hi Everybody,

We will be concluding the workshop now. This thread will be live and Yash and Nvid will keep on visiting it regularly.If you have any further query please feel free to post here. The Team will try to find answers and let you know as soon as possible.

Warm Regards
Sapana
Community Development Team

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:58 IST 29 of 31
Well the time is gonna end now, so I will againg request you to read my post on the security concerns and try to work upon it. It was nice talking to you guys. Have a gre8 day.

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:58 IST 28 of 31
Dear ppjewellers,

To the extent possible we try to localize to India, How ever the challenge is to maintain certain consistencies on the policy as the register users can trade across all eBay sites.

Hence we need to align our policies to the tried and tested global policies

Regards
nvid

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:54 IST 27 of 31
I have already posted my safety concerns long time back you can check them out Sapana

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:53 IST 26 of 31
Use your baazee experience to make ebay better and safer and like I said if you need new ideas I have a lot ( LOL ).

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:50 IST 25 of 31
Ebay provides a very good platform to both sellers and buyers, but if you try to be a bit practical, it could be the best. Do not try to implement the ebay USA policies in India. You already have a ger8 knowledge and experience of Indian market with baazee.

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:50 IST 24 of 31
Dear ppjewellers

Users can get verified by any one of the option to list items. Unless they get verified they would not be allowed to list and the options available are

1. Credit Card
2. SMS
3. Normal Mail

At the time of migration existing Baazee sellers didnot go through this process.

For buyers we use certain criteria for verification

Thanks

Yash

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:49 IST 23 of 31
Hi ppjewellers,

It will be great if you could specify the safety concern you have.

Regards,
Sapana

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:47 IST 22 of 31
Yash, like you said that “We have already implementing most of best practices for Trust and Safety. “ I would request you to reply to my queries with regard to your so called best practices for trust and safety.

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:44 IST 21 of 31
Trust me, you guys are not selling any thing on ebay. Try doing it someday and you will get to know who safe it is.

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:43 IST 20 of 31
Dear ppjewellers

We have already implementing most of best practices for Trust and Safety.

We welcome any specific ideas in improving the market place as this has to be a collobarative effort.

Thanks

Yash

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:43 IST 19 of 31
I don’t see anything like Seller Verification and Buyer Verification any where on ebay. You just need to have an email address to register and start selling or buying.

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:38 IST 18 of 31
Dear ppjewellers,

I completely agree with you that we need to have a safe and secure eBay.in.

It’s our Endeavour to promote safe trading practices.

To make it safe we have

* Security Centre
* eBay Tool Bar
* Policies that create a safe and fair trading environment
* Bid management tools
* Seller Verification
* Buyer Verification
* Dispute Console

To list a few, I must reiterate your feedback to make eBay.in safer would be help a long way

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:36 IST 17 of 31
Achieving better fulfillment rate is very important, but make ebay safe from both sellers and buyers is most important and I am sorry to say as if now it not at all safe.

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:36 IST 16 of 31
Hi ppjewellers,
apologies for our slow typing speed. nvid and yash are trying to respond to your question, please bear with our speed.

Regards,
Sapana

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:33 IST 15 of 31
Give me a call after the workshop and I will provide you with a practical solution to all these issues. Which will not only make ebay safer but also increase you revenue.

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:27 IST 14 of 31
See now you know your drawbacks so you are trying to divert from the main problem to lower UPI rate. This no way makes ebay safer, we want a safer environment with lower UPI rate

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:23 IST 13 of 31
Its almost half hour now and you didn’t reply to even one post. This clearly shows Ebay efficiency. Guess we are expecting too much from you.

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:23 IST 12 of 31
Dear ppjewellers,

Your concern is very valid in relation to Feedback and UPI. The way we are addressing in to improve the fulfillment rate so that more and more Positive Feeback and lesser UPI being filed.
In the interim I agree there would be some challanges and in soon this would change to good as we are working agreesively to reduce the UPI rates.
There is a great functionality offered to sellers to reduce UPI rates, please check this feature
http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/biddermanagement.html?ssPageName=STRK:MESRL:009

Thanks

Yash

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:19 IST 11 of 31
Do you think 1 hour is sufficient for the workshop, at the speed at which you reply ??

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:16 IST 10 of 31
I am still awaiting your response to my questions

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:07 IST 9 of 31


Why does eBay have rules and guidelines?

eBay's policies are rules and guidelines that create a safe and fair trading environment

for all eBay members.

Learning about eBay's policies will help you avoid breaking rules (including the law) and

aid you in trading with reliable, trustworthy buyers and sellers.

The most important eBay policy is Your
href="http://pages.ebay.in/help/policies/user-agreement.html">User Agreement
.


Different categories of eBay Policies




  • Privacy: Your privacy

    is our top priority. Read about how your personal information is protected and how it is

    used.

  • Feedback: Rules and

    guidelines about eBay's system for member reputations.

  • Identity: Rules about

    your contact information and User ID.

  • Rules for Everyone:

    General policies applying to all eBay members, including our Outage Policy, Employee Trading

    Policy, and more.

  • Rules for

    Buyers
    : "Always pay for your purchases", and other important rules for buyers.

  • Rules for

    Sellers
    : Important listing policies and other rules that apply to selling, such as no

    solicitation of off-site sales and the Tax Policy.

  • Prohibited and Restricted

    Items
    : Can you buy hippopotamus ivory on eBay? What about selling lottery tickets? Find

    out in our comprehensive list of banned and restricted items.



Regards,
nvid

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:03 IST 8 of 31
Hello Yash and Nvid

First I would like you to address the issues I have put up long time back. Like you can clearly see from kaya_jewels post that what I said, people are actually doing it. Instead of Ebay getting a safer place its becoming TIT FOR TAT game. If you check the history of all buyer from whom I filed an UPI, you wont see any negative feedback, reason like I told you before, we are scared because if the buyer provides us a negative feedback it cannot be removed. So how can you say ebay is getting safer for both buyers and sellers ???

) View Listings | Report 27-05-05 15:03 IST 7 of 31
Hello All,

Welcome to the discussion on Trust and Safety.

Today I shall run you through the policies on eBay.in

I would introduce the policies and would be happy to take any further questions on the same

Regards
nvid

View Listings | Report 27-05-05 14:46 IST 6 of 31
Hi All,
Welcome to the workshop on understanding Trust and Safety Policies and addressing the concerned issues.

Today we have Yash and Nvid from Trust and Safety Team to answer your queries related to Trust and Safety. Nvid will start with posting some basic policies that you will like to be aware about, then they will be ready to field your questions.

We love the workshops to be interactive, so please feel free to post any queries or questions.

Lets start with the workshop!

Sapana
Comunity Development Team

) View Listings | Report 24-05-05 07:28 IST 5 of 31
Hi,

Buyers end up buyign up produts for almost 10% extra price than what they would normally get from us. ( 4% Baazee 3-4% Paisa pay + Shipping Insurance + Shipping)

Ebay comission should be 50% less.

Thanks

Rakesh
a2z enterprises

) View Listings | Report 20-05-05 01:26 IST 4 of 31
here i very much agree with other sellers.

On baazee i could file a SNC - Give a rating -Mark payment receipt and many more in one lien - TOGETHER -- On ebay its Tedious.

On ebay - Again it difficult to make out for whom we have files SNC (FVC). So we need to check all transactions again and agian to make sure we didnt left any FVC - (The fullfillment rate is very low)


Also -- we do not get an Email informign about ratings given - so if a buyer is not happy he leavs a -ve rating and i go uninformed - untill i go and chack my own ratings.

The volume of transactiosn by offlien payemnt mode has dried out due to entensive promotion of Paisa Pay. ANd buyers end up buyign up produts for almost 10% extra price than what they would normally get from us. ( 4% Baazee 3-4% Paisa pay + Shipping Insurance + Shipping)


Ebay comission should be 50% less.

) View Listings | Report 19-05-05 23:04 IST 3 of 31
Dear Ebay Team,

Support from ebay was excellent during migration and till date i have no problems with support from ebay team.

But I TOTALLY AGREE WITH PPJEWELERS THE POINTS HE MENTIONED ARE VERY TRUE. IT HAS NOW BECOME A TIT FOR TAT GAME U DID THIS WAIT I TOO WILL DO THE SAME WITH YOU. I MYSELF DID THIS... NOT JUST THIS ARREE BABA PREVIOUSLY IN BAAZEE NO SELLER GETS THE OPTION TO FILE WARNING AFTER THE BUYER HAS PAID FOR THE ITEM USING PAISA PAY. BUT A FEW DAYS BEFORE I BOUGHT AN ITEM FROM EBAY PAID ONLINE RECIEVED MY CD'S IN EXCELLENT CONDITION LEFT COOL COMMENTS FOR THE SELLER HE TOO DID THE SAME FOR ME AND A FEW MORE DAYS LATER HE FILLED UNPAID WARNING ON ME... :( I REPLIED WITH ALL MY PAYMENT DETAILS OF PAISAPAY ID BUT HE DIDN'T CARED TO REPLY BACK OR TO TAKE THE COMPLAINT BACK THEN WHAT ELSE AFTER 2 DAYS I TOO FILLED ITEM NOT RECIEVED WARNING ON HIM... X-( TODAY AFTER A WEEK HE REPLIED TO ME AND TOOK HIS WARNING BACK STATING SOMEBODY MISTAKENLY HAS DONE THIS. HOW FUNNY... IT'S NOW A GAME OF FIGHT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE........SELLER .... BUYER...

A FEW RULES I TOO THINK SHOULD BE CHANGED ON EBAY INDIA TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR ALL OF US.

Regards,
Rakhi Verma
Kaya Jewels

) View Listings | Report 03-05-05 14:27 IST 2 of 31
Hello to everybody at ebay.in working hard day and night to make ebay.in a nightmare for the sellers.

Your post says “ At eBay our constant endeavor is to create a safer place for our users to transact and interact with each other ” .I checked for all the possible definitions for “safe“ so that ebay.in can relate them to even one of it and support there above said statement.


definition of safe



Free from harm, injury, or risk; untouched or unthreatened by danger or injury; unharmed; unhurt; secure; whole; as, safe from disease; safe from storms; safe from foes.

Conferring safety; securing from harm; not exposing to danger; confining securely; to be relied upon; not dangerous; as, a safe harbor; a safe bridge, etc. Incapable of doing harm; no longer dangerous; in secure care or custody; as, the prisoner is safe.


I know you will have hard time to relate ebay.in to even one of the definitions provided. The reason for this post is to wakeup ebay.in. I request you to reply to the following queries since this in not my personal problem, but a problem faced by the whole seller community.


You say the ebay.in is following the best practices for the feedback process, if you provide me a satisfactory reply to my question I will agree with you and if you do not then please think again on your policy.


Now the practical side


IS EBAY SAFER FOR SELLERS ??

The ebay.in feedback policy is not making ebay safe in any way. On baazee.com after filing an SNC we used to provide the buyer with negative feedback because we knew that in case he provides us a negative feedback in response it will be taken care of by baazee. But do we follow this no ebay ?? NO ……….. reason ?? we are scared, yes we are scared because if we get a negative rating in response we have no where to go. Now does this make ebay.in a better and safer place ??



IS EBAY SAFER FOR BUYERS ??

Now take it this way, if we were provided with a neutral or negative feedback on baazee.com we used to work hard to satisfy the buyer and get the ratings upgraded. Now when we know that once a rating is provided it cannot be edited, why will we waste time on customer satisfaction ?? it will be a tit for tat game……… you give me negative rating I do the same, don't like it ?? lets withdraw .......... and the game is over. This is how ebay is getting safer, right??


Any one can make any number of id’s on ebay without verification and fool around providing negative feedback to sellers and we can do nothing except sit and watch. The option for blocking users dose not help anyway cause user having feedback score 0 can bid on at least 1 item. This way fake bidders can make any number of id’s and bid on as many items they wants to. This again makes ebay very safe, I guess.


Please answer to these questions in your workshop cause you have ample time to think over it. I am not taking up the other issues ( shipping amount problem, paisapay delay, drop in sale, buyers complaining on lengthy checkout process ………….. and many more ) cause this one is the most important issue to be taken care off.


Conclusion :- Baazee was a simpler, better and safer place for both buyers and sellers.


Best Regards


Surjeet Kakkar

Prem Parkash Jewellers ( EbayID : PPJewellers )



) View Listings | Report 03-05-05 14:17 IST 1 of 31
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font-family:Arial">Hello to everybody at ebay.in working hard day and night to
make ebay.in a nightmare for the sellers.





Your post says

At eBay our constant endeavor is to create a safer
place for our users to transact and interact with each other
<span style="color:black">”</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black"> .I checked for all the possible definitions for
“safe“ so that ebay.in can relate them to even one of it and support there
above said statement.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">



definition of safe

Free from harm, injury, or risk; untouched or unthreatened by danger or injury;
unharmed; unhurt; secure; whole; as, safe from disease; safe from storms; safe
from foes.

Conferring safety; securing from harm; not exposing to danger; confining
securely; to be relied upon; not dangerous; as, a safe harbor; a safe bridge,
etc.

Incapable of doing harm; no longer dangerous; in secure care or custody; as, the
prisoner is safe.



I know you will have hard time to relate ebay.in to even one of the definitions
provided. The reason for this post is to wakeup ebay.in. I request you to reply
to the following queries since this in not my personal problem, but a problem
faced by the whole seller community.



You say the ebay.in is following the best practices for the feedback process, if
you provide me a satisfactory reply to my question I will agree with you and if
you do not then please think again on your policy.



Now the practical side



IS EBAY SAFER FOR SELLERS ??

The ebay.in feedback policy is not making ebay safe in any way. On
baazee.com after filing an SNC we used to provide the buyer with negative
feedback because we knew that in case he provides us a negative feedback in
response it will be taken care of by baazee. But do we follow this no ebay ?? NO
……….. reason ?? we are scared, yes we are scared because if we get a
negative rating in response we have no where to go. Now does this make ebay.in a
better and safer place ??

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EBAY SAFER FOR BUYERS ??
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font-family:Arial">

Now take it this way, if we were provided with a neutral or negative feedback on
baazee.com we used to work hard to satisfy the buyer and get the ratings
upgraded. Now when we know that once a rating is provided it cannot be edited,
why will we waste time on customer satisfaction ?? it will be a tit for tat
game……… you give me negative rating I do the same, don't like it ?? lets
withdraw .......... and the game is over. This is how ebay is getting safer,
right??





Any one can make any number of id’s on ebay without verification and fool
around providing negative feedback to sellers and we can do nothing except sit
and watch. The option for blocking users dose not help anyway cause user having
feedback score 0 can bid on at least 1 item. This way fake bidders can make any
number of id’s and bid on as many items they wants to. This again makes ebay
very safe, I guess.



Please answer to these questions in your workshop cause you have ample time to
think over it. I am not taking up the other issues ( shipping amount problem,
paisapay delay, drop in sale, buyers complaining on lengthy checkout process
………….. and many more ) <span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>cause this one is the most important issue to be taken care
off.



Conclusion :- Baazee was a simpler, better and safer place for both buyers
and sellers.
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font-family:Arial">

Best Regards





Surjeet Kakkar

Prem Parkash Jewellers ( EbayID : PPJewellers )

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